# Alternating potentiometers in Parallel to the base of an NPN Transistor

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**Created:** [27 March 2024 03:26 UTC](https://forum.core-electronics.com.au/t/alternating-potentiometers-in-parallel-to-the-base-of-an-npn-transistor/19516 "2024-03-27T03:26:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![Robert93820](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ac91a4/32.png) [@Robert93820](https://forum.core-electronics.com.au/u/Robert93820)\
**Post date:** [1 April 2024 00:45 UTC](https://forum.core-electronics.com.au/t/alternating-potentiometers-in-parallel-to-the-base-of-an-npn-transistor/19516/21 "2024-04-01T00:45:21Z")

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Hi Pix  
No No No.  
I don’t know exactly what you intend to do with this but certainly DO NOT connect the output (pin 3) to ground. I don’t know but it might destroy the 555. It certainly won’t do it any good.  
Cheers Bob

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**Author:** ![Robert93820](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ac91a4/32.png) [@Robert93820](https://forum.core-electronics.com.au/u/Robert93820)\
**Post date:** [1 April 2024 00:48 UTC](https://forum.core-electronics.com.au/t/alternating-potentiometers-in-parallel-to-the-base-of-an-npn-transistor/19516/22 "2024-04-01T00:48:03Z")

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By the way, did you ever get that flip flop circuit to work.  
I posted 4 days ago about my thoughts on that.  
Please don’t join the brigade of people who don’t see fit to report results.  
Cheers Bob

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**Author:** ![Pixmusix](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forum.core-electronics.com.au/pixmusix/32/9719_2.png) [@Pixmusix](https://forum.core-electronics.com.au/u/Pixmusix)\
**Post date:** [1 April 2024 00:49 UTC](https://forum.core-electronics.com.au/t/alternating-potentiometers-in-parallel-to-the-base-of-an-npn-transistor/19516/23 "2024-04-01T00:49:19Z")

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Ohh good point.  
Its going through a multimeter to ground… but it needs a diode there to protect the 555 timer!  
Ill add it in soon

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**Author:** ![Pixmusix](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forum.core-electronics.com.au/pixmusix/32/9719_2.png) [@Pixmusix](https://forum.core-electronics.com.au/u/Pixmusix)\
**Post date:** [1 April 2024 00:54 UTC](https://forum.core-electronics.com.au/t/alternating-potentiometers-in-parallel-to-the-base-of-an-npn-transistor/19516/24 "2024-04-01T00:54:12Z")

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> [@Robert93820](#):
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> By the way, did you ever get that flip flop circuit to work.

I did get it to work but as you predicted the led was a poor indicator. It would either be off or on. I.e. by the time i could get the led to illuminate at all the transistor was practically saturated and the potentiometer made next to no difference.

Hence why ive changed tack to a 555 timer circuit so i can measure the frequency instead and i can meausre if i was successful.

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**Author:** ![Robert93820](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ac91a4/32.png) [@Robert93820](https://forum.core-electronics.com.au/u/Robert93820)\
**Post date:** [1 April 2024 01:34 UTC](https://forum.core-electronics.com.au/t/alternating-potentiometers-in-parallel-to-the-base-of-an-npn-transistor/19516/25 "2024-04-01T01:34:48Z")

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> [@Pixmusix](#):
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> Its going through a multimeter to ground

No its not. You have it connected directly to ground and for some unexplained reason the probe connected to that. If you want to measure anything connect a resistor from pin 3 to ground and connect your multimeter to pin 3  
Cheers Bob  
PS: At 500nF I don’t think C1 will be a polarised electrolytic capacitor.

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**Author:** ![Robert93820](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ac91a4/32.png) [@Robert93820](https://forum.core-electronics.com.au/u/Robert93820)\
**Post date:** [1 April 2024 02:03 UTC](https://forum.core-electronics.com.au/t/alternating-potentiometers-in-parallel-to-the-base-of-an-npn-transistor/19516/26 "2024-04-01T02:03:53Z")

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Hi Pix  
If you are just after an indication of what state the flip flop is in here is a quick circuit that is as simple as you will get.

 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/uploads/core_electronics/original/2X/d/dcc3f017804b925ed73b20c2912a13ea0433c620.jpeg)

The Op Amp is a common rail to rail. Non rail to rail Op Amps will not swing to 5V and ground.  
I would suggest resistor value between 270Ω and 330Ω which will give a LED current of about 10mA which is within Op Amps capability.  
Cheers Bob  
The Op Amp and LED (3mm and 5mm) are available from Jaycar if that is more convenient.

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**Author:** ![dave50358](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@dave50358](https://forum.core-electronics.com.au/u/dave50358)\
**Post date:** [1 April 2024 21:01 UTC](https://forum.core-electronics.com.au/t/alternating-potentiometers-in-parallel-to-the-base-of-an-npn-transistor/19516/27 "2024-04-01T21:01:57Z")

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Pix,  
To achieve a varying LED brightness you could use one of the LM3914/5/6 series. The IC turns on different outputs pins for varying voltage inputs. Connect different resistor values to the outputs and then to a single LED would change the current and thus the brightness.  
You could also just implement a simple bargraph ( one pin sets dot/bar mode) and the observed brightness would increase as multiple LEDs are turned on.  
For the datasheet look up the Texas Instruments WWW site.  
Dave

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