# Ender 3 V2 3D Printer Printing with PLA issues **URL:** \ **Category:** Uncategorized\ **Created:** [25 January 2022 01:10 UTC](https://forum.core-electronics.com.au/t/ender-3-v2-3d-printer-printing-with-pla-issues/12910 "2022-01-25T01:10:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Jon166537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@Jon166537](https://forum.core-electronics.com.au/u/Jon166537)\ **Post date:** [25 January 2022 01:10 UTC](https://forum.core-electronics.com.au/t/ender-3-v2-3d-printer-printing-with-pla-issues/12910/1 "2022-01-25T01:10:51Z")
Hi All, I have just brought a Ender 3 V2 3D Printer. Im using PLA filament Nozzle Temp: 200, Bed Temperature: 60 Degrees. The initial laying of the filament never sticks to the bed, screwing up the rest of the print. I have tried to use Painter tape, and glue stick to improve the adhesion. Attached is a short video of the printing, and the file I am using to print with. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/UsrX-HRSUCU/maxresdefault.jpg "IMG 1608") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsrX-HRSUCU) I am using the ultimaker cura slicing software, since I am on a Macbook. Attached is the file Im using to print with. [CE3\_3DBenchy.gcode.zip](https://forum.core-electronics.com.au/uploads/short-url/yCi7jithWkc7qpwEWdYcNbT1m8k.zip) (1.1 MB) STL File source > **[\#3DBenchy - The jolly 3D printing torture-test by CreativeTools.se by...](https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:763622)** > > Creative Tools Creative Tools supplies 3D printer and 3D scanner products incl filaments, accessories and support and also 3D software for leading CAD, modeling, animation, and rendering. > \#3DBenchy is a 3D model designed by us at Creative Tools... ---
**Author:** ![Bryce](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forum.core-electronics.com.au/bryce/32/3631_2.png) [@Bryce](https://forum.core-electronics.com.au/u/Bryce)\ **Post date:** [25 January 2022 02:38 UTC](https://forum.core-electronics.com.au/t/ender-3-v2-3d-printer-printing-with-pla-issues/12910/2 "2022-01-25T02:38:55Z")
Hi Jon, Thanks for posting on the forum! That nozzle and bed temp should be fine for PLA, have you used any other PLA filaments with your printer so far and ran into the same issue? I’ve uploaded your video you attempted to post as unlisted on youtube so that it can be posted here for anyone wanting to take a look at it: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/KyqpUenNzA0/maxresdefault.jpg "3D Printer Issues") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyqpUenNzA0) Also, it’s not the first port of call, but have you disassembled your printer’s hot end to ensure that you haven’t got any burnt filament or debris in there causing issues with the flow since you’ve put it together? Sometimes issues with minor blockages cause the insufficient filament to make it out of the nozzle or inconsistently, thus making it seem that it’s an issue with bed adhesion rather than with the head being somewhat jammed. ---
**Author:** ![Jon166537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@Jon166537](https://forum.core-electronics.com.au/u/Jon166537)\ **Post date:** [25 January 2022 02:48 UTC](https://forum.core-electronics.com.au/t/ender-3-v2-3d-printer-printing-with-pla-issues/12910/3 "2022-01-25T02:48:08Z")
Hi Bryce, Yes I have tried the - PLA filament received with the printer - Polymaker PolyLite Black PLA Filament 1KG 1.75mm brought off Core Electronice - Polymaker PolyLite White PLA Filament 1KG 1.75 brought off Core electronics All had the same issue. I don’t think there is a blockage, because I had partial success with creating 1/2 of the Benchy model before it starting to move, but I had to heat the plate to 95 degrees, nozzle temperature 230 degrees, print speed 75% ---
**Author:** ![Liam120347](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forum.core-electronics.com.au/liam120347/32/5003_2.png) [@Liam120347](https://forum.core-electronics.com.au/u/Liam120347)\ **Post date:** [25 January 2022 02:50 UTC](https://forum.core-electronics.com.au/t/ender-3-v2-3d-printer-printing-with-pla-issues/12910/4 "2022-01-25T02:50:45Z")
Hey Jon, Have you trammed(leveled) the bed? Making sure its perfectly trammed should always be the first step. I had some roadblocks on my V2 and with the paper trick plus some [Magigoo](https://core-electronics.com.au/magigoo-original.html). Would you be able to send through some close ups of the first could of lines? ---
**Author:** ![Bryce](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forum.core-electronics.com.au/bryce/32/3631_2.png) [@Bryce](https://forum.core-electronics.com.au/u/Bryce)\ **Post date:** [25 January 2022 02:50 UTC](https://forum.core-electronics.com.au/t/ender-3-v2-3d-printer-printing-with-pla-issues/12910/5 "2022-01-25T02:50:50Z")
Also, quick question, can you shoot through a screenshot or info about your slicer profile in CURA? It shouldn’t have too big an impact on the first few layers, but just curious to see whether there’s anything we can identify from there. ---
**Author:** ![Trent5487676](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forum.core-electronics.com.au/trent5487676/32/4583_2.png) [@Trent5487676](https://forum.core-electronics.com.au/u/Trent5487676)\ **Post date:** [25 January 2022 02:59 UTC](https://forum.core-electronics.com.au/t/ender-3-v2-3d-printer-printing-with-pla-issues/12910/6 "2022-01-25T02:59:00Z")
Hi Jon, The most common cause of your model detaching from the bed like that is usually to do with your first layer height. The Ender 3 is a bit unique in that the bed is manually levelled. There are some good photos of what your first layer should look like [in this tutorial](https://core-electronics.com.au/tutorials/tune-your-first-layer-z-offsets.html). If you flip over your failed benchy and send us a close up photo of the base we should be able to see if you have sufficient squish to make sure the first layer gets the right amount of stick. ---
**Author:** ![Jon166537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@Jon166537](https://forum.core-electronics.com.au/u/Jon166537)\ **Post date:** [25 January 2022 02:59 UTC](https://forum.core-electronics.com.au/t/ender-3-v2-3d-printer-printing-with-pla-issues/12910/7 "2022-01-25T02:59:30Z")
![Screen Shot 2022-01-25 at 1.56.42 pm](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/uploads/core_electronics/original/2X/d/d06bf929e05a43ae9f378bd782b1ebb2dcebb600.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Jon166537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@Jon166537](https://forum.core-electronics.com.au/u/Jon166537)\ **Post date:** [25 January 2022 03:10 UTC](https://forum.core-electronics.com.au/t/ender-3-v2-3d-printer-printing-with-pla-issues/12910/8 "2022-01-25T03:10:34Z")
![IMG_1612](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/uploads/core_electronics/original/2X/b/b41512a111c398d3970cdd5f26abc601fbc0740f.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Trent5487676](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forum.core-electronics.com.au/trent5487676/32/4583_2.png) [@Trent5487676](https://forum.core-electronics.com.au/u/Trent5487676)\ **Post date:** [25 January 2022 03:44 UTC](https://forum.core-electronics.com.au/t/ender-3-v2-3d-printer-printing-with-pla-issues/12910/9 "2022-01-25T03:44:37Z")
Hi Jon, Thanks for the photo, it looks like the outer walls aren’t even adhering to each other so it’s a good sign the bed height might be a bit off. There is a video guide from Teaching Tech that covers this with a Creality Ender printer so this should all match what you have in front of you. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Ze36SX1xzOE/maxresdefault.jpg "Bed levelling for beginners to achieve a perfect first layer") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ze36SX1xzOE) ---
**Author:** ![Jon166537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@Jon166537](https://forum.core-electronics.com.au/u/Jon166537)\ **Post date:** [25 January 2022 03:48 UTC](https://forum.core-electronics.com.au/t/ender-3-v2-3d-printer-printing-with-pla-issues/12910/10 "2022-01-25T03:48:54Z")
[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/nP2Owwr32Dw/maxresdefault.jpg "IMG 1613") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP2Owwr32Dw) [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/UsrX-HRSUCU/maxresdefault.jpg "IMG 1608") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsrX-HRSUCU) ---
**Author:** ![Liam120347](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forum.core-electronics.com.au/liam120347/32/5003_2.png) [@Liam120347](https://forum.core-electronics.com.au/u/Liam120347)\ **Post date:** [25 January 2022 05:47 UTC](https://forum.core-electronics.com.au/t/ender-3-v2-3d-printer-printing-with-pla-issues/12910/11 "2022-01-25T05:47:25Z")
Hi Jon, From the first video it looks like there is far too much room beteween the nozzle and bed. When setting it up it should be between 1 and 2 bits of paper, if you use Glue or Magigoo you can usually get away with a looser tolerance but is always good practice to keep it close. The guide Trent linked has it down pat. ---
**Author:** ![Oliver](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/user_avatar/forum.core-electronics.com.au/oliver/32/3315_2.png) [@Oliver](https://forum.core-electronics.com.au/u/Oliver)\ **Post date:** [27 January 2022 05:58 UTC](https://forum.core-electronics.com.au/t/ender-3-v2-3d-printer-printing-with-pla-issues/12910/12 "2022-01-27T05:58:02Z")
Hi Jon, thanks for posting those videos. They show the issue quite clearly - it’s evident that there is too much clearance between the bed and the nozzle. ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/uploads/core_electronics/original/2X/a/aaaba0ffd5b0dc868275e7bf0ff49aa37f5aaedc.jpeg) ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex028/uploads/core_electronics/original/2X/0/0fcda90e4ca12342e347a704ad98a1e34ae45d8d.jpeg) 3D printers need to be calibrated to sub-millimeter accuracy to get reliable printing results - they are far from 2d printers that are just plug and play. Getting your bed perfectly levelled is tedious, but well worth the effort. The piece of paper trick will get you a _rough_ starting point from which you can tune your first layer height. 0.2mm (200µm) clearance is fairly standard - looking at your video there appears to be 1 - 2 mm of clearance, or 5 to 10 times what it should be. Here are some good guides to get you started: > **[Tune your First Layer - Z Offsets - Tutorial Australia](https://core-electronics.com.au/guides/tune-your-first-layer-z-offsets/)** > > Out of the box, a LulzBot 3D Printer comes tuned to perform exactly as you need it to. But over time we flash new firmwares, take our printers cross country, swap tool heads, perform cold pulls and a whole swathe of other things that could slowly... > **[Printing Perfect First Layers - Ultimaker Cura - Tutorial Australia](https://core-electronics.com.au/guides/Printing_Perfect_First_Layers/)** > > If your utilizing a correctly set up Ultimaker S5 3D Printer you should have no issues with first layer printing. So long as there are print profiles available on Cura, which most likely it will, with a correctly set up 3D printer you will be able to... The Teaching Tech guide linked earlier is also excellent: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Ze36SX1xzOE/maxresdefault.jpg "Bed levelling for beginners to achieve a perfect first layer") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ze36SX1xzOE)