Recomended Antenna kit for LoRa RTK for Lymow

WMO86916

RAKARG14

https://docs.rakwireless.com/product-categories/accessories/rakarg14/datasheet/

or

https://mikrotik.com/product/915_omni_antenna

what do you think best pick would be for passing through multiple buildings and sheds / tree’s ? in a hilly area ? the stock antenna that I believe is 4db and hand sized looses them half way down the hill

i have mixed feelings the 5m cable would allow me to reposition transmission point as I am currently limited by the power cable , but 5m also looses a lot of db , while I could use shorter 1m cables that come with the others

Australia so 915mhz

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Hi Christopher,
Looking at the lora board it looks like your lora is in the 860-900 Mhz (approx) Range,
the following is not really telling you what to get, as I would need to get all the details of the link(s), the specifics.

Some things need to be kept in mind. the higher the frequency, the more line of site is needed/highly recommended. If you have lots of hills, trees and buildings, it may or may not even be possible for a single hop. You really need to be trying to setup/install things such the line of site (or close to it) can be achieved. This may need a “repeater” to get an end to end link to work as you need; if it can work with the trees/hills and buildings, the lora radio settings needed my end have having very very low speed, which may not be an issue depending on your needs.

The next thing to keep in mind, lora will have Max Power limit set. As such the radio output power will have a fixed upper limit, so the only way to get a power gain (and I use that term loosely) is by antenna gain. But physics gets in the way… When an antenna has gain, what it really is doing is taking the energy from one direction or plain and putting that into a different direction or plain.

Without looking at the antenna radiation patterns for each antenna, as a rule of thump the higher the gain the longer distance you can push the link, at the expense of needing things to be better aligned. e.g. a High gain antenna may push the signal in a more horizontal plan so good for flat ground, but not so good for hills. Beams at each end of a point to point link can be really good, but will need to be correctly aligned.
That said, you may not need the extra power for the distances you need to cover and if you do, a repeater, if possible could be better.

With the coax run, as a rule of thumb, shorter will be better, but some coax is better then others. You can get the specs and do the math an see if it will be an issue or not,

In some of my local playing, I made a portable lora unit, with a small 2dbi omni. (half wave) and a 3dbi on a base antenna.
With that setup, it easily covered 4Km line of site and could go longer based on the signal levels. but I could only just get it to work with 2 houses in the way to about 800m and 3 houses in the way, I could not get to work (over the approx 500m)

So what I hope to have covered is that the answer really is going to be… it depends on you exact needs.

To be able to select an antenna, you/we really need to know the actual path to evaluate the issues along the path. e.g. Amount of trees, can you get line of site, if not how much is blocking line of site and where in the path.

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any recommended signal analyzer i might just buy them all and just do a in field scan to decide which to leave on

I did see this one looks like a raspberry pi

and maybe a RAK10701-Plus if I can find something for sale in AU

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Depending on how much data you want, in theory most modules should be able to supply you with the RSSI. the stronger the better.
Keep in mind that with lora you can improve distance at the cost of speed. So if you dont need much data exchange, then setting up for distance over bandwidth for any testing would be ideal.
I made up two units with a GPS. when I press the button, it sends the GPS data to the remote unit. If it got it ok, it would then send back its gps location. I then did the math to get the distance between to two, and updated my display with the stats, distance RSSI rx message count. With this setup, I could just go somewhere and press the button. If nothing come back… then it was not good enough. If something did come back then I knew both directions are OK and I got the RSSI from the base to my location for evaluation at that distance.

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